school system that you tolerate.
I have two daughters - one is in her first year of college now. The
other is in 10th grade so I know exactly what you mean.
The entire idea of pathing a kid into a career track early on is nuts. I
wanted to be a professional guitarist in 11th grade. I ended up being an
engineer! Talk about a left turn...
There are ways around the process however.
There are elections you can make that will allow your kids to take
pretty much any classes you/they desire. But you have to play the game
right.
Both my kids will go through college so it was a matter of choice of
which one was the best track to make them ready to do so. I think my
older daughter was on a Pre-med path - which basically meant that she
could take the basic classes plus science classes which is what she
wanted to do anyway. She's in year one of college now and is waffling
between Poly Sci and a Pre-med track. I think she will end up in pre-med
which is good since she has some serious health problems anyway.
My younger daughter is on the same track in HS that my older daughter
was. I think she may end up an engineer, but we'll see. You never know
for sure which way they will go.
But if either of my daughters wanted to get into any type of trade at
their school other than the construction trades ( which are huge around
here - too big in fact) they would be better off moving into the Fort
Wayne school district since they actually have a vocational center that
teaches the trades and gives them school credit for taking the courses.
Like your schools, the school up here make all trade related courses
electives. Doesn't count towards graduation at all. The courses they do
offer are really superficial. They have few machines, nothing like what
I was exposed to in HS. It's really sad.
Things could be a lot better!
Dave - Ditch Mitch before he sells everything! (;->)
R Wink wrote:
> Here in southern Indiana, all classes in the "Trade and Industrial" section
> are elective and have to be taken in addition to the standard classes the
> student takes. In addition, in the state of Indiana, the parents and the
> students have to declare the career path the student is taking thru high
> school before graduation of the 8th grade and then they can't change the
> path through high school.
>
> When I went to trade school, you got credit for the math and science classes
> you took as part of the "Trade and Industry" classes. Now, the students
> have to carry the full load of standard classes, just as everyone else does,
> and use electives to go to T&I classes. None of the credits count toward
> graduation.
>
> R. Wink
>
> _____
>
> From: DIY-CNC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DIY-CNC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Dave
> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 6:18 AM
> To: DIY-CNC@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [DIY-CNC] How many axes are possible on a CNC lathe?
>
>
>
> A couple of years ago they had a special presentation for parents of
> children at the local high school. My daughter was in 10th grade at the
> time. I attended. The guy who spoke was part of a government economic
> development council for Indiana. He said the number one need for the
> area was trained nurses and the number two need was CNC machine
> operators who knew machine tools.
>
> Unfortunately if you want to become a CNC machine operator or programmer
> or simply a machinist the local high schools are of no help at all.
> Most of the "shops" have been removed and replaced with computer labs.
> Everyone has to learn Word and Excel right?? And don't forget
> Powerpoint! You can't have a meeting without Powerpoints - thank you
> Bill Gates..
>
> Anyway, if you want to get into CNC work, you have to pursue that
> yourself via local trade schools or local community colleges. Used to
> be 25 years ago you could take a bunch of shop classes in high school
> and jump into a shop at a decent pay rate. Not so any longer. The
> High School shops don't exist. Remember this is the information age,
> not the metal cutting age. We left that to the Chinese! (:-<)
>
> Dave
>
> D Ray East wrote:
>
>> Cliff Doesn't anyone there know how to write Grant proposal's? I have
>> done three or four of them in my life times. You can normally score at
>> least 2 or 3 million dollars on big situations like what you are looking
>> at. To give you an idea. I happened to have lunch with a guy from a
>> local newspaper in a small town the population was about 11000 people.
>> They had a company in that town a very big company. Between that company
>> and the Federal Government. We bought $20,000 worth of equipment to
>> train some people when it was over with we had trained and gotten
>> employment for over a 1,000 people. This was just a class in how to
>> solder electronics for that company. When it was over two more companies
>> moved to that area and hired even more people. I can get you a building
>> and teachers and equipment if you will ship me kids that want to take
>> the course. two years going to school and we will give them a job that
>> starts at over $15.00 and hour. When they have their degree. All you
>> need is some local folks that can do this for you there.
>>
>> dray
>>
>> Cliff. Johnston wrote:
>>
>>> Definately! Thanks, again. It is amazing what they can to with CNC
>>> machinery today.
>>>
>>> What I can't figure out is why so few high school students are going
>>> into the machining trade. I'm in Houston. The Houston Chronicle
>>> devoted most of a front page recently to the shortage of machinists in
>>> this area. The Houston Metal Working Club that I joined recently is
>>> brainstorming on how to aleviate the shortage. Dunno.
>>>
>>> Cliff.
>>> "May the best you've ever seen,
>>> Be the worst you'll ever see;"
>>> from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Kirk Wallace
>>> To: HYPERLINK "mailto:DIY-CNC%40yahoogroups.com"DIY-CNC@yahoogroups-.com
>>>
> <mailto:DIY--CNC%40yahoogroup-s.com>
>
>> <mailto:DIY--CNC%40yahoogroup-s.com>
>>
>>> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 8:34 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [DIY-CNC] How many axes are possible on a CNC lathe?
>>>
>>> This one is good too:
>>>
>>> HYPERLINK
>>>
> "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW_e7LuuGWs"http://www.youtube.-com/watch?-v
> =fW_e7LuuGWs
>
>> <HYPERLINK
>>
> "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW_e7LuuGWs"http://www.youtube.-com/watch?-v
> =fW_e7LuuGWs>
>
>>> <HYPERLINK
>>>
> "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW_e7LuuGWs"http://www.youtube.-com/watch?-v
> =fW_e7LuuGWs
>
>> <HYPERLINK
>>
> "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW_e7LuuGWs"http://www.youtube.-com/watch?-v
> =fW_e7LuuGWs>>
>
>>> On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 16:58 -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 2008-02-09 at 00:02 +0000, graybeard488 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm looking at either converting a small lathe to CNC or buying a
>>>>> Sieg
>>>>> CNC C6. While looking at the CNC lathes for sale on eBay I noticed
>>>>>
>>>> a
>>>>
>>>>> lathe for sale that had 4 axes! How many axes are possible on a CNC
>>>>> lathe? What are they?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cliff.
>>>>>
>>>> Beyond the X and Z, if you have an encoder on the spindle, you might
>>>> count that as one. Z axis movement by the tail stock could be made
>>>> into
>>>> another. If the tail stock has a spindle and encoder, add another axis
>>>> letter. A lathe can have more than one Z axis, or in other words two
>>>> independent tool holders. Plus, there are other mill like attachments
>>>> with their own X-Y like configurations. The term "lathe" gets pretty
>>>> foggy. See here:
>>>>
>>>> HYPERLINK
>>>>
> "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGNc1g7MBI8&feature=related"http://www.youtu
> be.-com/watch?-v=DGNc1g7MBI8&-feature=related
>
>> <HYPERLINK
>>
> "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGNc1g7MBI8&feature=related"http://www.youtu
> be.-com/watch?-v=DGNc1g7MBI8&-feature=related>
>
>>> <HYPERLINK
>>>
> "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGNc1g7MBI8&feature=related"http://www.youtu
> be.-com/watch?-v=DGNc1g7MBI8&-feature=related
>
>> <HYPERLINK
>>
> "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGNc1g7MBI8&feature=related"http://www.youtu
> be.-com/watch?-v=DGNc1g7MBI8&-feature=related>>
>
>>>> HYPERLINK
>>>>
> "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGq-9NNmr3o&feature=related"http://www.youtu
> be.-com/watch?-v=oGq-9NNmr3o&-feature=related
>
>> <HYPERLINK
>>
> "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGq-9NNmr3o&feature=related"http://www.youtu
> be.-com/watch?-v=oGq-9NNmr3o&-feature=related>
>
>>> <HYPERLINK
>>>
> "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGq-9NNmr3o&feature=related"http://www.youtu
> be.-com/watch?-v=oGq-9NNmr3o&-feature=related
>
>> <HYPERLINK
>>
> "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGq-9NNmr3o&feature=related"http://www.youtu
> be.-com/watch?-v=oGq-9NNmr3o&-feature=related>>
>
>>> --
>>> Kirk Wallace (California, USA
>>> HYPERLINK
>>>
> "http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/"http://www.wallacec-ompany.com/
> -machine_shop/
>
>> <HYPERLINK
>>
> "http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/"http://www.wallacec-ompany.com/
> -machine_shop/>
>
>>> <HYPERLINK
>>>
> "http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/"http://www.wallacec-ompany.com/
> -machine_shop/
>
>> <HYPERLINK
>>
> "http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/"http://www.wallacec-ompany.com/
> -machine_shop/>>
>
>>> Hardinge HNC lathe,
>>> Bridgeport mill conversion, doing XY now,
>>> Zubal lathe conversion pending)
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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